ISCA: Feminist And Female IssuesThe ISCABBS forum: Feminist And Female Issues(Jedadaiah39561) - Feminism in the Middle East- June 5, 2008 Feminism in the Middle East http:cbs13.comnationalMuslim.Extremist.Women.2.737682.htmlhttp://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39561 (Fantasia39560) - SunDance, how could feminism be meant only for women of other cultures Is- June 4, 2008 SunDance, how could feminism be meant only for women of other cultures Is feminism now obsolete in the west Hroswitha, I was talking about Arab and Indian cultures. In Arab cultures, valuing virginity is not limited to Muslims. Many Arab Christians also care about premarital virginity. I enjoyed reading the rest of your post, Hroswitha.http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39560 (Hroswitha39559) - Fantasia -- you're moving from modern post-WWII France to third world nations- June 3, 2008 Fantasia -- you&39;re moving from modern post-WWII France to third world nations now Please clarify your realm and support your arguments with some sort of relevant time, place, religious background, etc. You make sweeping statements about women&39;s experiences without anything behind them. I will be careful as well. In western developed nations -- western Europe, the US, Canada, the former Soviet Union, even in non-western areas that are developing nations -- China, Japan, Korea, Central.http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39559 (SunDance39558) - I think in current, mostly-mainstream, American culture, self-esteem being tied- June 3, 2008 I think in current, mostly-mainstream, American culture, self-esteem being tied to another person so completely is considered more of a mentalemotional problem than a norm, whether it be a man or woman&39;s self esteem in question. Implying that women need validation from another person, I thought, was an idea that feminism was tryign to erradicate. If people are still thinking that a woman&39;s self esteem (or anyone&39;s self esteem) should be linked to another person or group&39;s...http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39558 (Fantasia39557) - Hroswitha,- June 3, 2008 Hroswitha, Your last statement sums up what I was going to say. Outside the US and Europe, some societies do prize virginity and attach stigma to divorce. Even within the US, "American society" is not monolithic. There are immigrant communities (second or third generation even, documented, American as apple pie) who continue to uphold the part of their culture that prizes virginity, discourages divorce and second divorces, as do some conservative religious groups.http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39557 (Hroswitha39556) - Fantasia -- I think you're living in another world altogether. Society has no- June 3, 2008 Fantasia -- I think you&39;re living in another world altogether. Society has no problem with remarried women and less interest in the virginity of women than you think. The sheer number of independent and emotionally secure single women I know of all ages belies your argument. As for emtional dependence of men, there are studies that indicate that when men older than 60 lose their wives, their health declines and often they follow in death within a year. That isn&39;t due entirely to lack.http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39556 (Fantasia39555) - Hroswitha,- June 3, 2008 Hroswitha, I think women&39;s reluctance to remarry after divorce or death of spouse is more due to fidelity to the dead spouse, difficulty finding another spouse if she&39;s of middle or old age or because society looks less kindly to women who&39;ve been married before than virgins -- not due to emotional independence. And I think men seek to re-marry quicker because it&39;s easier for them. Society has no problem with divorced or widowed men. And the urge to re-marry results from getting...http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39555 (Hroswitha39554) - In my work in history, particularly in studies pertaining to the early modern- June 3, 2008 In my work in history, particularly in studies pertaining to the early modern era when statistics first started being gathered, it has become clear that, when widowed, women are consistently more reluctant to take on a second husband. Men, on the other hand, remarried (in the era prior to 1900) within four to six months. Part of that is practical -- women were absolutely necessary for the maintainance of a household. Not just cleaning and cooking duties, but running the staff, maintaining...http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39554 (Fantasia39553) - Steppenwolf,- June 3, 2008 Steppenwolf, Do I feel women need more help attaining self-esteem than men do -- no, that&39;s not why I think self-esteem is a key component of feminism. Rather, self-esteem is a weapon, kind of like how Black nationalism was an antidote to white supremacy in the &39;60s for some trajectories within the civil rights movement. So instead of blaming everything on sexism or patriarchy (or white supremacy by analogy), you empower yourself by the self-esteem inherent in feminism (or Black...http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39553 (Fantasia39551) - I'd think that women outlive men due to biological (not emotional) reasons. And- June 3, 2008 I&39;d think that women outlive men due to biological (not emotional) reasons. And it&39;s only natural to expect that women are more emotionally dependent on men than the opposite because 1) that comes with financial dependence, and more woman are financially dependent on men than the opposite; and 2) some religions permit polygamy (and even without the context of marriage, men are probably more likely than women to have multiple partners), which shows women are more dependent emotionally on..http://rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi?forum=40&post=39551 |