perl.fwp...Re: regex of the month (decade) by Craig S. Cottingham- January 14, 2008 On Jan 14, 2008, at 16:42, David Landgren wrote:> What&39;s next, "welcome to the reäl world"Well, no, because the "a" isn&39;t pronounced as a separate vowel. On the other hand, we may start seeing references to El Camino Reäl in Silicon Valley.--Craig S. Cottinghamcraig.cottinghamgmail.comhttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4092.html Re: regex of the month (decade) by Peter Makholm- January 14, 2008 David Landgren <davidlandgren.net> writes:> At that point, a vote was taken, and the result was that some other> accented character like ý or something made it in at the expense of> &156;. What did get in were the decidedly less useful Æ and æ ligatures.Quite interesting discussion over all, but also quite off topic, so Ijoined until now. Which is most usefull of the french oe-ligature orthe scandinavian letter æ I don&39;t know.But part of the...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4091.html Re: Umlaut by David Landgren- January 14, 2008 sebb wrote:> On 14012008, John Douglas Porter <johndporteryahoo.com> wrote:>> From the keyboard of Yanick Champoux 12.01.08,18:50:>>> dieresis or diæresis A diacritical mark ( ¨ ) optionally>> used in>>> English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresis>> is used on>>> a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation of>> that vowel>>> or indicate it is pronounced in a separate...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4090.html Re: regex of the month (decade) by David Landgren- January 14, 2008 Chris Dolan wrote:> On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, David Landgren wrote:> >> The benchmark may be flawed, since my appreciation of Unicode is >> little more than "things went downhill after 7-bit ASCII".> > Haven&39;t I read that you live in Paris I figured that anyone who lives > in a country whose dominant language was not fully expressible in ASCII > would love Unicode.I do, but then again French is fully expressible in Latin-1... except for the oe...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4089.html Re: Umlaut by Paul Johnson- January 14, 2008 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 05:16:42PM +0100, Georg Moritz wrote:> >From the keyboard of sebb 14.01.08,12:21:> > The rule seems to be: second vowel of a pair=dieresis, otherwise umlaut.> > > > Any counter-examples> > yup, two examples:> > German:> "geärgert" (been angry)> - here the second vowel is an umlaut> > Quenya - the elven-tongue:> "ámen anta síra ilaurëa massamma" (give us today the daily...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4088.html Re: Umlaut by Keith Ivey- January 14, 2008 sebb wrote:> The rule seems to be: second vowel of a pair=dieresis, otherwise umlaut.I&39;d call the symbol in "Brontë" a dieresis, not an umlaut. Maybe: when the symbol indicates the vowel is to be pronounced further forward in the mouth, it&39;s an umlaut; when it indicates the vowel is to be pronounced on its own in a normal way, it&39;s a dieresis.-- Keith C. Ivey <keithiveys.org>Washington, DChttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4087.html Re: Umlaut by Georg Moritz- January 14, 2008 From the keyboard of sebb 14.01.08,12:21:> On 14012008, John Douglas Porter <johndporteryahoo.com> wrote:> >> > From the keyboard of Yanick Champoux 12.01.08,18:50:> > > dieresis or diæresis A diacritical mark ( ¨ ) optionally> > used in> > > English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresis> > is used on> > > a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation of> > that vowel> >...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4086.html Re: Umlaut by sebb- January 14, 2008 On 14012008, John Douglas Porter <johndporteryahoo.com> wrote:>> From the keyboard of Yanick Champoux 12.01.08,18:50:> > dieresis or diæresis A diacritical mark ( ¨ ) optionally> used in> > English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresis> is used on> > a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation of> that vowel> > or indicate it is pronounced in a separate syllable. It is sometimes> referred>...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4085.html Re: Umlaut by John Douglas Porter- January 13, 2008 From the keyboard of Yanick Champoux 12.01.08,18:50:> dieresis or diæresis A diacritical mark ( ¨ ) optionallyused in> English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresisis used on> a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation ofthat vowel> or indicate it is pronounced in a separate syllable. It is sometimesreferred> to as an « umlaut » when used with a single character or in a «diphthong. »> Examples:...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4084.html Re: regex of the month (decade) by Yanick Champoux- January 13, 2008 Michael G Schwern wrote:> > Yanick Champoux wrote:> > > dieresis or diæresis ..> > Really they just want to be more metal. Soon it will be ¡KömpUsërV.DøøM!> And to thing that, all those years, I laughed at Spinal Tap&39;s claim to be avant-garde and visionary geniuses. They were right. All that time, they were right...Joÿ,anickhttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2008/01/msg4083.html |