perl.advocacy...Re: Women in Perl was Re: Updating http:history.perl.orgPerlTimeline.html by Richard Foley- April 30, 2008 On Thursday 01 May 2008 08:14:21 Shlomi Fish wrote:> > I heard somewhere that freedom cannot be given, and it must be taken and > fought for.>I don&39;t know the origin of the phrase, but the spirit is historically correct, and probably always will be.-- Richard FoleyCiao - shorter than aufwiedersehenhttp:www.rfi.nethttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2442.html Women in Perl was Re: Updating http:history.perl.orgPerlTimeline.html by Shlomi Fish- April 30, 2008 On Monday 28 April 2008, Elaine Ashton wrote:> > Sure, I can see what you mean, and that sounds very altruistic, to> > keep> > Elaine&39;s material &39;on file&39; so to speak. It&39;s a highly defensible> > position,> > on the face of it, but in reality, we all know what being quietly> > side-lined> > means.>> History repeats itself time and time again. You get the people you> deserve by the silent majority remaining silent. Just like all...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2441.html Re: There is no cabal by Peter Scott- April 28, 2008 On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:41:00 -0500, Andy Lester wrote:> What sort of power are you ascribing to these unnamed "people-in- > power" There is no power. There is no Perl Cabal ...Oh, I beg to differ:http:web.archive.orgweb20030716002311perlcabal.comlwall.html:-)-- Peter Scotthttp:www.perlmedic.comhttp:www.perldebugged.comhttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2440.html Re: Updating http:history.perl.orgPerlTimeline.html by Jim Brandt- April 28, 2008 Elaine Ashton wrote:> I&39;ll welcome updates.> > I&39;ll welcome fixed links and html.> > I&39;ll welcome new content.> brian and chromatic have posted a few &39;Year in Review&39; type nodes to Perlmonks and oreillynet that would likely be helpful if someone were to work on some updates. Here&39;s the link to 2007, and it contains links to 2006 and 2005:http:perlmonks.orgnode_id=659849The 2007 version is extensive and if I recall correctly, a version was published in The...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2439.html JOKE Re: There is no cabal by Shlomi Fish- April 28, 2008 On Monday 28 April 2008, Andy Lester wrote:> > I wasn&39;t offered my own new> > wiki-thread though, maybe I didn&39;t ask the right person...>> What do you mean "offered my own new wiki-thread" You don&39;t get> offered something on a wiki. You go and start it yourself.>> > I realise that you had not intended to make this much of an issue> > out it, or> > to trample on another (if aged) project. As I see it, it&39;s happened> >...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2438.html Re: There is no cabal by Alan- April 28, 2008 > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:49:16PM +0200, Richard Foley wrote:>> On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote:>> >>> > There is no Perl Cabal>> >>> There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough...>>>> Only oneThe question is whether the cabal is an array or a scalar. Personally Ithink it is a hash. (Or involves hash...)http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2437.html Re: There is no cabal by Philippe Bruhat- April 28, 2008 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:49:16PM +0200, Richard Foley wrote:> On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote:> > > > There is no Perl Cabal> > > There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough...> Only one-- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) In war, the only winners are those who sell the weapons. (Moral from Groo 3 (Image))http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2436.html Re: Updating http:history.perl.orgPerlTimeline.html by Elaine Ashton- April 28, 2008 On 28 Apr, 2008, at 12:22, Richard Foley wrote:> Well, I started to revise it myself once, but didn&39;t get much of an > answer> from anywhere about how to take it on either. I wasn&39;t offered my > own new> wiki-thread though, maybe I didn&39;t ask the right person...What, did you have problems finding my email address, too :)>>> Sure, I can see what you mean, and that sounds very altruistic, to > keep> Elaine&39;s material &39;on file&39; so to speak. ...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2435.html Re: There is no cabal by Andy Lester- April 28, 2008 On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Richard Foley wrote:> I think we&39;re getting a bit off-topic though. This thread was about > Elaine&39;s> Timeline, and her right to continue her project as she sees fit, > rather than> someone else to decide on behalf of the community that her project > should be> arbitrarily side-lined.Elaine has an absolute right to continue her project as she sees fit.No one could stop her from continuing her project if they wanted to.No one is...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2434.html Re: There is no cabal by Richard Foley- April 28, 2008 On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote:> > There is no Perl Cabal> There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough... ;-)I think we&39;re getting a bit off-topic though. This thread was about Elaine&39;s Timeline, and her right to continue her project as she sees fit, rather than someone else to decide on behalf of the community that her project should be arbitrarily side-lined.-- Richard FoleyCiao - shorter than aufwiedersehenhttp:www.rfi.nethttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.advocacy/2008/04/msg2433.html |