perl.qa...Re: counting usage, not downloads by Eric Wilhelm- July 6, 2008 from Andy Lester on Sunday 06 July 2008 10:33:>FWIW, my line of thinking has nothing to do with how many people are >downloading or installing a module as an indicator of quality.Note that I said "usage" -- not downloads, not installations.I do not suggest counting downloads (and we cannot do it anyway.)I do not suggest counting installations (it could be done, and might be interesting (see popcon), but lacks meaning.)Usage is neither of these. (Sorry about the echo. It.http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11034.html Re: counting usage, not downloads by Andy Lester- July 6, 2008 On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Eric Wilhelm wrote:> How would that be more useful that counting how much actual code> actually loads the moduleFWIW, my line of thinking has nothing to do with how many people are downloading or installing a module as an indicator of quality. I&39;m far more interested in human commentary.Counts of who uses a given product puts the Britney Spears as the highest quality musical artist.--Andy Lester => andypetdance.com => www.petdance.com =>...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11033.html Re: counting usage, not downloads by Todd Rinaldo- July 6, 2008 I don&39;t really mean to stir the pot, because I mostly believe downloadcounts are useless....Even so, I would point out that "possibly" slightly more useful wouldbe install counts. However this would require that we configure CPANreporter to be able to submit install reports (successfailure) viaLWPMechanize. For the firewall challenged, this is the only viableoption for us out there.ToddOn Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputinggmail.com> wrote:> from...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11032.html Re: counting usage, not downloads by Eric Wilhelm- July 6, 2008 from Todd Rinaldo on Sunday 06 July 2008 06:41:>Even so, I would point out that "possibly" slightly more useful would>be install counts.How would that be more useful that counting how much actual code actually loads the module--Eric-- So malloc calls a timeout and starts rummaging around the free chain,sorting things out, and merging adjacent small free blocks into largerblocks. This takes 3 12 days.--Joel Spolsky--------------------------------------------------- ...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11031.html ANNOUNCE Smolder 1.23 by Michael Peters- July 5, 2008 V1.23 is now available from Sourceforge: http:sourceforge.netprojectssmolderChanges in this release include: Recognize the extra_properties in an TAP archive and display them on the report Added --report-id option to binsmolder_update_smoke_html Individual TAP streams are now viewable on the test report screen Simplified platform files since all RH derivatives can be treated the same Remove the init.d script since we don’t want to require root on installupgrade Added --Platform.http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11030.html ANNOUNCE by Michael Peters- July 5, 2008 The uploaded file TAP-Harness-Archive-0.10.tar.gzhas entered CPAN as file: $CPANauthorsidWWOWONKOTAP-Harness-Archive-0.10.tar.gz size: 8180 bytes md5: ed5d2143b5796996e600175f99999a2dChanges in this version include: + Added full path as extra argument to made_parser_callback. + Added extra_files argument to new() + Added extra_properties argument to new() + Fixed RT 35649-- Michael PetersPlus Three, LPhttp://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11029.html Re: counting usage, not downloads by Eric Wilhelm- July 5, 2008 from Aristotle Pagaltzis on Friday 04 July 2008 22:38:> Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputinggmail.com> 2008-07-04 10:25:>> Assuming that we could obtain download counts (which we can&39;t)>>...Case in point: I keep my own minicpan mirror...So I said "(which we can&39;t)" to convey that counting downloads is impossible -- it cannot be done. I went on to briefly explain that it is also futile, which you have also done. Now that we&39;ve covered that twice, we can move.http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11028.html Re: Making CPAN ratings easy (was Re: CPAN Ratings and the problemof choice) by Aristotle Pagaltzis- July 4, 2008 Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputinggmail.com> 2008-07-04 10:25:> Assuming that we could obtain download counts (which we can&39;t)And even if we could obtain them from the entire mirror network,they would still be worthless. Case in point: I keep my ownminicpan mirror, so the download hits my upstream mirror logsfrom me are worthless. Then there’s also the issue of OS vendorsproviding packages of Perl modules (Debian, RedHat).Even if we could get those download stats, they would...http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11027.html Re: Making CPAN ratings easy (was Re: CPAN Ratings and the problem of choice) by Eric Wilhelm- July 4, 2008 from chromatic on Thursday 03 July 2008 17:04:>Any new information presented to people should be useful, and> hopefully as immediately obviously useful as possible. Â What do> download rates need to be usefulAssuming that we could obtain download counts (which we can&39;t), I doubt that they would be useful in selecting a module, because they still only indicate that someone decided to try it.We already have is_prereq as a vote of usefulness, but that doesn&39;t necessarily.http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11026.html Re: Making CPAN ratings easy (was Re: CPAN Ratings and the problem of choice) by chromatic- July 3, 2008 On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:38:55 Rick Fisk wrote:> People use CPAN to solve a particular problem. They don&39;t go looking to> download packages merely because they exist or are popular so I don&39;t> see a parallel between CPAN and Cnet.>> The idea of displaying download rates in my view is not to create a> popularity contest but to give the consumer an idea of how active is a> particular module.A statistic ripped away from its context ceases to be a stastistic; it&39;s..http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2008/07/msg11025.html |